What's wrong with tables

Holy crap, I certainly started you guys off on one, didn't I?!

Well thanks for the info one and all. I now feel quite comfortable plodding along with tables. but it is definitely there. In css that 10pix difference is a big problem when trying to achieve a specific layout and it can throw a designer off. hence there are lots of complaints about it - especially when you have overlapping images.

Neither is perfect. wow gold Css is definitely the better of two evils though.

I am so sick of buy wow gear people saying that if you use tables for website layout, you are doing it wrong.

Well you know what, I am very familiar with wow gold css, and to be honest, they suck at web layout. They have far more problems in displaying uniformly on all browsers than websites that are designed with tables.

Lets face it, CSS just isn't implemented very well in a lot of browsers, and in order to make them work, you have to use hacks about 100% of the the time. I never have to use hacks to make a website work with tables.

If a technology is so poorly implemented that it requires Hacks to do basic layout, then why is it the better way of doing it?

If CSS was supported properly in the browsers, then by all wow gold means us it for layout. But the simple truth is they just aren't, and it isn't going to be a few years until you can count on your visitors having browsers that implement them properly.

In my opinion when faced with the choice of using the approach that you have to waste tons of time hacking, and the approach that works 100% of the time on all browsers and can be implemented quickly, I am going to go with the later.

When I surf the web, I come across sites that use css all the time, and you see things like text running out of their boxes. Sections of the website overlapping other sections and making them unaccessible, etc. And I say to myself, yep, another perfect CSS site.

CSS is great and has it's place, and in the future when it is implemented properly in the browsers (When you can actually use them they way they are described in the CSS standards and actually have them work predictably on the various browsers) I will make my switch over to them. Until them, designing a site with just div tags isn't for me.

And if you notice wow items most websites that use the straight CSS approach pretty plain jain.

I implore you to take a sqiz further back into the thread and look at the differences between those two sites i posted (right click - view source). stupid css done did push my code to text ratio up to 33.66% as opposed to the the original sites 20%) which although isnt the most exciting of factors is does spark the question. how on earth did i manage to get it to look exactly the same in ie and ff while only using one hack - pushing my content to the top and delivering a smaller. prettier page than the one with tables. dare i say. damn you plane jane css. damn you to heck!
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